it's reprehensible for our ambassador to the u.n. to go on all networks and say -- and deny that. i mean, it flies in the face of the facts, and so i don't know what intelligence we had or what we didn't have, but i know that when you have that kind of operation, even the most casual observer knows that it is a terrorist attack. >> has the state department given you or the lawmakers information? >> as i'm sure you may have heard, we had the worst, most disgraceful hearing -- meeting with the secretary of state and general clapper, the head of dni, an fbi guy and a navy admiral. they told us nothing, and the very next day, in "the new york times" and "the washington post" was the hour-by-hour operation that took place. their answer when we asked that in this secret room, they would say, well, the investigation is still going on. well, obviously the investigation is still going on, but somehow, the media had -- i mean, almost exact detail, as you know. it was really an insult to the congress, to tell you the truth. >> so what needs to come out of this? i mean, does there need to be an
